AFTERTHOUGHTS ON

George M. Bergman and Saharon Shelah, Closed subgroups of the infinite symmetric group, Algebra Universalis, 55 (2006) 137-173.  MR 2008a:20005. 

I put this paper together under time pressure, and it was only while correcting the galley proofs that I thought hard about what the general structure of the arguments in §§5-7 was.  If I were writing it again, I would outline this structure explicitly.  The general pattern has the following form (terminology explained below):

(i) Stabilizer condition ⇒ (ii) Tree condition ⇒ (iii) Special subgroup ⇒ (iv) Subgroups arising from partitions ⇒ (i)

     Let me illustrate this here for the results of §5.  For a subgroup  G  of  Sym(Ω)  closed in the function topology --

(i)  is condition (7) of the paper, saying that the stabilizer in  G  of every finite set has at least one infinite orbit in  Ω. 

(ii)  is the hypothesis of Lemma 10, saying that one can make a "tree" of choices of elements  β0, β1, ...  of  Ω,  with infinitely many  βi  as acceptable next choices following any acceptable initial string  β0, ..., βi-1,  such that a certain fixed infinite string  α0, α1, ...  can be mapped by elements of  G  to every one of the resulting infinite strings  β0, β1, ... . 

(iii)  says that, after we adjoin one additional element  s  to  G  (chosen to act "in every possible way" as "local" permutations on a family of uncountably many branches of the above tree), the resulting group contains elements that carry  {α0, α1, ...}  into itself, and induce the full symmetric group of that set. 

(iv)  says that after adjoining finitely many elements to  G,  one gets the full symmetric group  Sym(Ω).  (The description "subgroups arising from partitions" for this condition is more natural in the contexts of §6 and §7.  Suffice it to say here that the full symmetric group corresponds to the indiscrete partition on  Ω.) 

In the paper we work backwards.  So, in  5, we first recall a general version of (iii)(iv), namely (8), cited from [5]; then prove (ii)(iii) in Lemmas 9 and 10.  In the discussion following the latter lemma, we show (i)(ii), and finally, we state Theorem 11, and as the proof thereof, tie up the argument by noting that the results of  3 give (iv)(i)

There are points in favor of that backwards development:  The results being proved are of most interest when one sees what they will be used for; and that order also makes it comfortable to state and prove them under more general hypotheses than would seem natural if we only looked at them as steps linking onto the conclusions of previous results.  But whatever order we give them in, it would have been desirable to make clear the global structure. 

The details of conditions (i)-(iv) and of the proofs connecting them differ among the three cases considered in  5,  6 and  7.  The contexts of  6 and  7 involve the additional steps of proving equivalence of the subgroups associated to the different partitions in the relevant class; while in  5, the implication (ii)(iii) has an intermediate step, the statement that the result of adjoining  s  to  G  contains elements that act by all local permutations on  {αi }.  Some other differences are noted in  6 and  7  of the paper. 

Note on Theorem 6.  That theorem shows the inequivalence of subgroups in the first 3 of the 4 equivalence classes that the paper treats, but as noted in the paragraph following the proof, the method of the theorem cannot distinguish the 4th equivalence class from the 3rd.  Although the property used in the paper to distinguish those two classes, namely countability, gives an easy argument, let us note that a little twist on the method of the theorem will also distinguish that case.  In the case of countable  Ω,  the fourth condition to look at is

     Ω0  admits an ℵ0-uncrowded generalized metric with respect to which all elements of  G  are bounded. 

One can strengthen statement (c) of the theorem to say (in the countable case) that if there is a finite bound on the cardinalities of the members of  A,  but infinitely many members of  A  are non-singletons, then  G  has the property stated under (c) but not the above property; and a statement (d) can be added, saying that if all members of  A  are finite, and almost all are singletons, then  G  does have the property stated above. 
(For a general cardinal  κ  as in the theorem, the corresponding property is that is that  Ωκ  admit a κ-uncrowded generalized metric with respect to which all elements of  G  are bounded.  But to say exactly when this holds is more complicated: one has to bring in the least  λ  such that  2λ ≥ κ.) 

A further question.  In the second sentence of  10 of the paper, we ask about the structure of the join-semilattice of equivalence classes of subgroups of  Sym(Ω)  under the equivalence relation studied there.  Some very simple questions about this semilattice are:  Is it a chain?  Is the top element at least join-irreducible?  I have incorporated the latter question into the paper Some results on embeddings of algebras, after de Bruijn and McKenzie, as Question 9.2: "Suppose  G  and  H  are subgroups of  Sym[(ω)],  which together generate that group.  Must  Sym[(ω)]  be finitely generated over one of these subgroups?"

Additional reference

  • J. D. Mitchell, M. Morayne and Y. Péresse, Generating the infinite symmetric group using a closed subgroup and the least number of other elements, Bull. Am. Math. Soc., to appear

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