Abstract: In my talk in the number theory seminar last semester, I gave a formula for the ratio of the special value of the L-function to the real period for winding quotients of prime level and in Ken Ribet's seminar this semester I and William Stein gave a formula for the ratio for the abelian variety associated to a newform. In this talk, I'll describe how the presence of oldforms affects the situation. In particular, I'll give the formula for the winding quotient of level a product of two distinct primes.